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Thursday, October 2, 2014


RANDOM MUSINGS
Dear Sri Gangadharan,

I am prompted to write following few lines after seeing your post dated October 1, 2014 under the 
caption "Let's concentrate on ..........." and the pocket strip "Other's are watching".
I have been going through the posts in LIC PC for a fairly long time . 

TIMELY AND APT
  • I appreciate the way you have been handling the posts in an impartial/non-partisan way, as much as possible. By your own admission, you had many times exercised the Editor's prerogative of editing/filtering the posts whenever controversial issues are raised or non-positive statements are made which may lead to unpleasantness or which may go against the interests of the pensioner community. 
  • For instance, today's post as also a few related posts from you are timely and apt. Of late I have been observing your clever way of moderating the discussions amongst the frequent contributors whose submissions may not add value to the cause of the pensioners' interests but only help to sharpen the differences at the cost of the pensioners' groups. 
  • The eager and enthusiastic contributors fail to see that "the whole world is watching" with/without interest/personal stake in the goings on through the columns of the LIC PC. It is because LIC PC is in public domain and is not operating as a closed group. Some times in their enthusiasm they may post their views, only to be "visible" and/or to show their literary abilities. If such post lead to acrimonious debates though unintended, may embarrass the leadership of different pensioners' groups. As a group of matured intelligent discerning individuals we have to exercise utmost caution before we commit anything to writing. It is what will segregate us from uninformed, casual, careless, irresponsible and disinterested sections of human beings - like "grain from chaff".
         COMING TOGETHER IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR

What I have written above are my purely personal views which I thought of sharing with you, as my 
friend. I DO NOT - repeat DO NOT - wish to be posted in LIC PC. It is only for personal consumption of 
Sri P G Gangadharan. I am confident that you will sincerely accede to my personal request.
Regards

T K S Narayanan


2.

BR MehtaMy humble request once again to Sh. Asthana ji is to please submit a very brief and specific reply to following specific questions. (To be published later.)



3.

Wednesday, October 1, 2014

Let's concentrate on Supreme Court cases now...

* defamation as suggested by Shri Asthana.

Dear friends,
I am seeing lots of talks and remarks from Shri B.R.Mehta against me for no reason. Hence these comments once for all. Since he has hurled a threat to see at the Bangalore AGM, I am not afraid of the same, but then he should come with replies to the following questions.
I agree that I may have used some words which may not be to the taste of some one.  If that be so I am sorry, but at least I am also a human being.  I have been busy preparing myself for the imminent hearing which may come up anytime as the cases were continuously being listed every week and call may come any time to rush to Delhi with all material and then this unwanted and uncalled for remarks hurts every one. I am unable to understand when I did not raise any objection to any one coming up and have been helping every one without any personal interest therein why all this mudslinging.
Though I am not required to give any explanation but in order to make the things clear and advise the mischief mongers to desist from such nefarious activities instead concentrate on working for the benefit of the pensioners and if they are unable to do anything let others work.
I have never met or talked to Mr. BR Mehta but his remarks show his hurt burning or hurt to his ego, unmindful whether this is the time for fighting collectively against our common adversary LIC and these persons are trying to take unconnected issues and even making false statements and unauthorized calls? What does it show?  Where was Mr. Mehta or SN Chhabra when Mr. Madan Lal Gandhi and I were working together even in the Chandigarh case and at the last moment on the call of Mr. Gandhi I had gone to Chandigarh and talked to the Advocate, Will these persons reimburse the loss sustained by me in my professional work and toils and travails in the journey?  Will the pensioners of LIC at Chandigarh not take the benefit of these?  Why these persons did not file caveat when they had already known that LIC has filed SLP.? They could have done so and got the matter dismissed then and there? Why did they not file cross-SLP in the matter of not giving any clear verdict on upgradation of pensions? When they have been always criticising their writ petition to be better why a judgment was sought on the basis of Jaipur judgment and not better judgment? Why these legal luminaries do not understand that without the help of the judgment in my case their writ petition is restricted to only DA/DR revision and not to revision of pensions. Instead of thinking on the correct lines these persons are hurling unwanted slogans against me to cover up their follies.  There are so many things which they did not do nor even conceived by them but were necessary.  I could not have taken any action directly because I was not a party to their case.  When I saw that no action is being taken in spite of advice I had to move application for impleadment, which is still pending before the SC.
Mr. SN Chhabra had sent a letter to all the Units of AIRIEF against the Federation, against me. Does this not amount to indiscipline? Otherwise he says that I am not conversant with law and legal procedures when things come to be unanswerable to him otherwise he is making false allegations against me and AIRIEF. I had managed the presence of Sr Advocate on the first date of hearing of Chandigarh SLP with his consent and he was present in the Court but he says that no Advocate was arranged, he was called to Delhi when I had gone there for his case, so that he can meet the Sr. Advocate but he did not reach in time why? He did not know of the proceedings in the SC when LIC had obtained hearing on mention in April but I managed the presence of our Advocate on telephone and sent the requisite documents on Inter and the second attempt for stay by LIC was rebuffed by the SC and I informed him.  Why they did not take objection when LIC had given undertaking to deposit the money within six weeks, a clarification was required but not wanted, no objection to the deposit of only DA/DR anomaly removal and that too in a false manner? Why deposit when it is a decided matter then why not payment directly? Why objections have not been raised so far about the method of calculation, where is 11.25% weightage, where is revision on 1/8/2002 and 1/8/2007? Why no opposition to a long date of seven months? He did not inform me of the application which he had filed nor has provided me a copy of the same so far in spite of demand? Why? He has changed the mentor to Shri MS Murty then why he is hurling accusations on me amounting to defamation? When already had been working with success why a separate Advocate for the same cause and since I have also to engage a Sr. Advocate for ensuing proceedings because of my Sr. Advocate becoming Advocate for the Union of India, why he did not divulge the name of his choice when I asked for the same so that I can also settle on the same Sr. Advocate? He has also hurled the question of payment of expenses in our SLP by AIRIEF? When it is known that AIRIEF had been financing the litigation in SC where was the reason to raise objection and why a separatist attitude? What useful purpose of engaging a separate Advocate will be served because when the matter is the same the Court is not going to hear again and again on the same matter and when the judgment is reproduction of Jaipur judgment what new ground can be raised by the second Advocate? Then why not work together? Why does he not ask LIC under RTI the expenses incurred by it on this unwanted litigation prolonged by it with details of fees paid to various Advocates and making us to defend their onslaught for seeking our fundamental right?
Can Mr. BR Mehta, or Mr. SN Chhabra or Mr. MS Murty tell me whether they are being paid correct pension as per Rules? Have they ever tried to find out.  As well wisher to pensioners the interests of poor family members are also our liability, have they ever checked whether correct pension is being paid to them?
 Mr. BRM has been questioning the contribution made to me by several donors for the litigation expenses and has been making false allegations, then firstly he has to show what is his locus or authority to seek all the clarifications and what is his contribution therein both financially, professionally and positively in the interest of pensioners except hurling abuses on me? Did he ever come to Delhi when the case was listed and bore the travails and troubles there about the attitude and way of working of the Advocates? Whatever contribution was received was credited to a separate account opened for this purpose. Not a single pie was credited to my personal account.  My Pensions and Saving Banks accounts are separate and in separate Banks too. Mr HK Aggarwal did nothing wrong in writing to make contribution to this separate account because he had full faith in me and for the convenience for many individuals and associations who were not ready to contribute due to their own affiliations.  I or Mr. HK Aggarwal never said only and only to my account.  We have always been saying that the amount be remitted to Indore or to Jaipur.  There is nothing wrong in it.
To Jaipur Panchkula Unit has not contributed anything, they are trying to take credit of the contribution made by Chandigarh people. They have no right to ask for account without an undertaking to repay the balance outstanding therein for expenditure before and from 1998 and the amount which I have incurred and not taken from AIRIEF. A question monger should bear the responsibility also.
Before I give the account Mr BR Mehta or Mr. SN Chhabra should give me an assurance that he will reimburse me the expenses which I have incurred since 1997 when the issue was for the first time raised before the Corpn and then before the Court.  Does he know how many dates were fixed, how many applications for early hearing and interim reliefs were moved and what was the expenditure thereon? What fees had to be paid to Advocates at Jaipur? What I was to gain after the revision takes place, merely Rs. 1000=00 then why does he expect me to spend lakhs of rupees?
Did he pay his attention on immediately filing objection to the deposit of the amount in the HC. It is better to exercise his energies in the right direction because such false and intentional accusations with wide publicity may entail defamation proceedings against him. Therefore I request and advice him to be fair and act for the pensioners, he is not going to get anything out of this.
Though I am not required to give any explanation but I am sorry to say that it is falsely being made an Issue against me by Mr. BRM. It is totally false and frivolous to say that I ever opposed to make a mention. But who was to do?  In case I had not agreed who prevented Mr. Mehta or Mr. Chhabra or Mr. Murty from making a mention? Why they did not make a mention earlier? When the SLPs were continuously being listed none had come to Delhi, why? If I have made a mention and have done their work that is also objectionable to them and when I did not do that was also objectionable.  They have no stand? Had that been correct why I had made an application for impleadment or early hearing or in the alternative for a direct to make payment of difference from the current month subject to decision. In my message I had only said that a mention was made on my behalf by my Advocate on the applications which I have moved for separation of the two SLPS – DA/DR and upgradation of pension and for direction to pay the difference by way of interim relief and the Court was pleased to pass the order for the case to be listed on 12/11/2014 a Wednesday which is a full hearing day.  Why it pinched them so much so that even MENTION has been made an Issue.  The underlying idea can very well be appreciated.
He only wants to have a common meeting for publicity sake but has not come out so far “when and where”.  I had already communicated my acceptance to meet at any place after Navratra, then where is the question of not agreeing.  I had even gone to Delhi on his call. Mr. BR Mehta as usual has been hurling sarcastic remarks on this issue.. I had been in consultation with Mr Murty since long but when I saw that he is not clear in his mind about the legal formalities I had to calm down.  Has he formed any strategy in the matter of defence of Chandigarh case, of which mentor and guide he has now become as has been given out by Mr. SN Chhabra though he is not a member of AIRIEF and how to defend the Delhi SLP on the issue which was not raised there.  Except hurling allegations nothing practical has come from his side as has been said by me earlier.  Has he prepared any reply to SLP, either Delhi or Chandigarh SLPs which has to be filed to vindicate our stand, did he oppose the condonation of delay, why not? I do not want to enter into all this but in case they do not want to work together I pray to these persons to work as they want and let me work as I have been doing since the beginning and that too with victory, when they actually do not want to work but only raising accusations in others’ working.
On this point Mr BR Mehta is over anxious since one way or the other he has to blame and defame me. which I suggest he should deter, I always welcome healthy and fruitful criticisms and suggestions.
I have never sought any credit then why this is being made the Issue.  Nothing can be done when I am the forerunner and all the SLPs are the outcome of my case, therefore, first my SLP will be heard and the judgment therein will be binding on others, and that will be a history in legal arena in either manner they are decided (good or bad) and so whenever reference will come the name of Krishna Murari Lal Asthana will be referred whether I claim or not or anybody has any objection or not. No help, no excuse, no control.
An impossible proposal was made to me for filing suits for recovery of the money through civil court on the basis of judgment in writ petition that was not approved by me and had given the proposer the position of law and since then he is averse to me. Neither the Civil Court can work since there is no decree and before filing execution petition first court fee at 10% of the amount claimed will have to be deposited which is not refundable. Now the same thing is being tried to be followed at Chandigarh to calculate their dues and file the same, why? it is not understood, do we have all the data? whether we know that correct pension is being paid to us and as per the Pension Rules what should be our pension and what is being paid? If we give our calculations that will become admission on our part and we will be bound by the same. Instead they should seek a direction that LIC should give month wise detailed calculation sheets. First of all they should oppose the deposit of the money in the Court when it is a decided case. When stay has been refused mere pendency of SLP or CA does not give the respite and non compliance is contempt of court, what action has been taken in this direction?
In is wrongly stated that I am a practising lawyer. Though I am a Law Graduate but I never made an application for enrolment.  However, I am actively working in the field of law. And many Law firms get their work done from me. I have also filed with success some PILs at my own cost and did not seek any benefit monetary or otherwise from any one. The entire drafting from 1998 till date both at Jaipur and Delhi was done by me, rulings were searched out.  I know persons like BR Mehta may say it to be boasting but it is a fact that it was me who had searched out the rulings and raised the issue of non-maintainability of appeal against dismissal of review petition and the result is known to all.
It must be remembered that the Gold Coin writ was filed by me and it was only thereafter that Rs. 3000 were paid to all the retired employees and the said writ petition is still pending for final adjudication, did any one pay any amount for that either personally or through their respective Association to me or to AIRIEF. Or did any out of we too asked for the same? Mr. BRM or Mr. SNC is not aware of the same? At least Mr. SN Chhabra got that benefit. ? Will the account seekers reimburse me the expenditure?
Though I have already explained about the fate of the contempt petition and had always been keeping informed to one and sundry about the proceedings which had been taking place.  Under what circumstances the contempt petition has been dismissed has also been informed to all, yet reference to this decision is unfortunate and shows lack of knowledge of Contempt of Courts Act.  But they are trying to reap advantage out of the same. I had no authority to withdraw the contempt petition howsoever I may have desired, no clarification was required since Supreme Court had already clarified not once but thrice, that is why it has not avoided to be mentioned in the order as to what clarification is required and if at all it was for the court to have sought the same but before that should have made a mention in the order. Further when some clarification is required the Contempt petition should have been kept waiting till then. I have already challenged the dismissal of Contempt petition by filing SLP in the Supreme Court at my cost. Will these persons contribute any amount if not why not?
Any way in case you do not want to have a dialogue with me in the right earnest shedding your ego, please do whatever you want to do in your cases and don’t try to encroach upon my cases and please act in the interest of the pensioners at large and do not create confusion in regard to the credit because you are not capable of changing the chain of events which has already taken place so far.  I give all the credit to you all but for God’s sake do not create confusion in the minds of the Pensioners and create hurdles and obstructions so as to make a strategy to win the case as far as possible.  Rest rests on the will of the Almighty and the fate and fortune of the pensioners.  I have been doing and will continue to do the best possible so long  as I am able to do, which I can only assure the pensioners fraternity.
In future any uncalled for and false remarks hurled on me or acted in my name will not be proper, which please note.
KML Asthana
1/10/2014
Shri.R.B.Kishore,VP,AIRIEF wrote in LICPC on 27-08-2014 under the caption, ' Some more light on pre 1986 pensioners'.  
Shri Kishoreji said " How frequently RBI has done the revision speaks high of RBIs concern for all types of pensioners & exgratia retirees." 
The pre 1986 retirees of RBI  and banks get the same amount of ex gratia and the same percentage of DR on basic.The pre 1986 LIC retirees too get the same amount of ex gratia and the percentage of DR on basic like banks but at times after a few months delay. The RBI Governors have been empathetic to the health and age related problems of the pre 1986 ex gratia recipients and have sanctioned medical allowance. The medical allowance which was Rs.300/- few years ago has been revised upward periodically and at present ranges between Rs.3400/- and Rs.5600/- p.m. to different staff and officers. It is Rs. 1000/- pm to pre 1986 retirees of LIC. (R.K.B.)
Shri Kishorji had added in his write up that AIRIEF has in its Charter of Demands requested the LIC Management to increase the medical allowance to different categories of staff and officers on the lines of RBI, may it be a bit less. The matter must be pursued vigorously.
Shri C.H.Mahadevan in his recent letter addressed to the Chairman (posted in PC on 22-09-2014) had mentioned about the anomaly in family pension at the minimum and maximum  ( Rs.1250/- and Rs.2400/- ) of the pensioners retired in August 1987 and 1992 pay scales. The inadequate pension that the family pensioners of our late colleagues are getting is very much glaring. With the cost of living going up every month, the family pensioners of a junior cadre Assistant to Senior most Executive Director getting five to ten thousand rupees a month, definitely might not be able to maintain the kind of standard of living they lived for years. It is pity that the authorities that matter in GOI and /or  in LIC are reluctant to play their role effectively to address to the unresolved issues of updating of pension,100 % DR, family pension at 30 % of the last pay drawn, improvement  in the amount of ex gratia to  and medical allowance to pre 1986 retirees.
The ceiling ( maximum ) on Family Pension Basic at Rs.1250/-( later revised to Rs.2400/- ) was as 4 th CPC. THE 5 Th CPC RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF THE CEILING OF Rs.1250/- ON FAMILY PENSION WHICH, THE COMMISSION OBSERVED, OPERATES HARSHLY AGAINST THE FAMILIES OF EMPLOYEES. THE COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF VARYING RATES ( 30, 20, 15 PERCENT ) OF FAMILY PENSION FOR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES. IT RECOMMENDED A UNIFORM 30 % OF PAY FOR ALL CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEES.  GOI family pensioners have been getting 30 % of pay since 01-01-1996. The family pensioners also like pensioners get ' updation of pension' on ' certain norms ' once in ten years along with revision of scales of working employees. The family pensioners also get additional 20 %, 30 %, 40%, 50 % and 100 % pension when they turn 80,85, 90, 95 and 100  years old. The minimum family pension in GOI  is Rs. 3500/- and the maximum Rs.27000/- (the Cabinet Secretary ). The  latest DR is 107 % for the period 01-07-2014 to 01-12-2014.
RBI family pensioners were also getting very meagre pension like banks and LIC. Their leaders prevailed upon the management and MOF, GOI. The GOI as usual after long persuasion, consented for Family Pension at 30 % of the ' last pay drawn' to all from 12-01-2013, from the date of GOI gazette notification.  With a view of doing away with multiple DR rates, RBI consolidated the basic pay eligible for pension at CPI 2836 merger - effected from 01-11-2007 revision of pay scales in banks and RBI. The pay revisions of 1987, 1992, 1997 and 2002 were at merger point of 600, 1148, 1684 and 2288.The RBI adopted a simple formula for consolidation to arrive at the new basic pay. An example of consolidation of pay of an employee retired in 1987 pay scale : 1200 (basic pay) x 2836 / 600 =5672  is the revised consolidated pay and 30 % of the consolidated / revised pay of an employee is the basic family pension. The minimum  and maximum family pension in RBI from January 2013 is Rs.3500/- and Rs.24495/-. They get DR at uniform rate( as revised from time to time on half yearly basis ) irrespective of date of retirement / death of employee, as payable to post  01-11-2007 retirees whose pay scales are based on CPI 2836. The latest DR for the period 01-08-2014 to 31-01-2015 is 102.45 % of the basic family pension. Majority of the family pensioners are reportedly getting since January 2013 double or more than double the pension they did draw when there was ' ceiling' etc. The minimum and maximum family pension including DR for the month of August 2014 is Rs.7086/- and Rs.49591/- respectively.
  The last revision of pay scales in LIC was from 01-08-2007 with merger point of 2944.The pay revisions of 1987, 1992, 1997,  and 2002  were at  merger point of 600, 1148, 1740 and 2328 respectively. There is an urgent need to revise the Family Pension. Our family pensioners, like family pensioners in GOI /RBI should get 30 % of the eligible basic pay for pension with the minimum of Rs.3500/-. Shri GNSji in one of his writings in LICPC some months back had said,
  
We are at it " The matter may be pursued at the highest level with all the seriousness that it 
   deserves by all leaders including Shri GNS ji.
   
   SN ( a 1992 pensioner )

Arrears to retd officers: "Happy to see Shri Mahadevan's painstaking efforts," writes MP Subramanian


Respected Sri CHM,  
It gives great pleasure to go through your message addressed to top brass of  LIC Management on calculation of Family Pension, arrears payable to retired class 1 officers based on the judgment in respect of Sri M.C.Jain case, etc and also your pains taking replies to the queries raised by our pensioner colleagues irrespective of the associations in which they are members.
It is amazing to find that you continue to have rapport with M/s R.B. Kishore, K.M.L. Asthana, Madhava Rao and at times you never failed to point out your disagreement with them in rare circumstances through never-mistaken language.

We used to appreciate your method of approaching issues without hurting anybody's feelings. Some how matters have gone too far and Hyderabad Unit had to plant a new organisation; certainly it is not an un-welcome development. Evolution is nature's choice. .... .... ....

Now it is time to observe caution in ventilating objectionable comments against any one petitioner.
A NEGLECTED SPARK MAY BURN THE HOUSE. Let us avoid a small murmur too that may cause unnecessary bickering among the petitioners.
LET US ALL HOPE THAT OUR YEARS' LONG SUFFERINGS WOULD COME TO AN END WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO AFTER 12-11-2014.
Restraining our personal emotions is the need of the hour. We will certainly be coming closer in the coming months.
 M.P. Subrahmanian, RIEA, Madurai.

Jan Dhan scheme - 3500 crores collected in deposits

PTI MUMBAI, SEPT 29:

Banks have opened a whopping five crore accounts under the Jan Dhan
scheme till September 25 and collected over Rs. 3,500 crore in deposits, 
a top Finance Ministry official said here today.

Led by state-run banks, the system has opened over 5 crore accounts under 
the Jan Dhan scheme as of September 25 and the deposits collected 
through the scheme have crossed Rs. 3,500 crore, Financial Services 
Secretary GS Sandhu told the annual meeting of the Indo-American 
Chamber.
The average deposit per account through this scheme is Rs. 800-900, 
he said.
Giving a major push to the Aadhaar scheme, Sandhu said, all these 
accounts will be seeded to the Aadhar number and will have biometrics 
to avoid the duplication.

The Jan Dhan scheme was announced by Prime Minister Narendra Modi 
during his Independence Day address and was formally launched on
August 28.

On the opening day itself, banks opened over 1.5 crore accounts. The 
government has set a target to open 7.5 crore such no-frills accounts
by Republic Day next year.
Each of these accounts comes with Rs. 5,000 overdraft facility and 
Rs. 1 lakh accident cover and is linked only to the RuPay cards.

(Courtesy: R.B.KISHORE)

Tuesday, September 30, 2014

Consumer Price Index - latest figures


Some Tender Feelings, Sober Thoughts...


The last few days discussions or exchange of correspondences in the columns/pages of LICPC have proved that there is no dearth of intellectuals in old and very old pensioners of LifeInsurance Corporation of India.
Every next contributor's pen proved to be mightier than the earlier contributor/s.Hopefullythe swords were not crystal hard to injure/cripple any body. All's well when there are somelessons to learn.
Our leaders are matured enough to appreciate each others feelings. They may be allowed freehand to go ahead for common good. Certain things done cannot be undone after lapse of long gap of time. There may be some actions, unwittingly unknowingly taken. Such of the actions which are not difficult or inconvenient/impossible may be rectified to the satisfaction of majority/all.

The intellectuals 'vaada vivaada' was reflective of an old saying in Sanskrit, "Na badharo nirmatsyarasya" " Intellectuals are, by and large, jealous of one another."
 
Better end with a couplet - Doha - 
 
ऐसी बानी बोलिए, मन का आपा खोय |
औरन को शीतल करै, आपहु शीतल होय || Sant Kabir Das.
 
SN (a 1992 pensioner)
 

What next ?

Dear Editor,

Now that the discussion on 'mention'  has been brought to a close by you with your very mature handling, I am with so many others eagerly looking forward to the valuable opportunity of meeting and exchanging views during the A.I.R.E.F General Council Meet at Bangalore  from 14-16 October in less than two weeks from now. Stakeholders in Rajasthan and Punjab & Haryana High Court decisions have high expectations on the inputs coming from veterans like Asthanaji and others. 

BR Mehta
Panchkula

Urgent need for home work before we go to Supreme Court

Monday, September 29, 2014


The current round of discussion on 'mentioning' is being closed. Further inclusion of posts will be based on merits.



Dear Editor,

I fully endorse Sh. S.N. Chhabra that expression of  Divergent Views on same issue or a personality must be always encouraged and welcomed as it becomes a symbol of a healthy democracy and progressive nature of any organisation and as such your P.C. is doing a great service and hence it must continue with this mission.

However, real difficulty comes from  certain corners who view it as a symbol of disunity or try to call people like Sh. S.N.Chhabra or myself or others who try to question our hero Sh. Asthana as Agents of either of following three viz G.N.S/ G.O.I./ L.I.C.Management.

I feel that we should always welcome questions howsoever unpleasant same are. In stead of satisfying us with a proper replies, we are attacked in an old fashioned style that we are not true Pensioners. This will be taken as an attempt to impose dictatorship which can never succeed.


BR Mehta
Panchkula

Sir,

I appreciate your sagacity in allowing the pensioners to speak frankly on current matters of common interest. Once they are allowed to open their mouth without hesitation, they are reacted upon. In the process, their rough corners are rounded up. The society gains on the whole.

No institution can develop and progress where the members are muzzled into silence under the garb of some discipline. And, let me assure Mr Rao and his ilk that expression of divergent views is no indication of division in our ranks. All advice of Unity is strength, washing clothes in public etc etc is a baby talk. We are all mature sincere persons.


Let's face fact, retirees have no 
bargaining power,united or not.

Let us face facts that we retirees have no bargaining power, united or not. LIC shall act on whatever directions are given to them by Govt Of India. And, GOI have its own decision making machinery where Asthana, his friends and foes do not count.
It is very easy to put the controversies at rest. Only Asthana can do it. 
The GB Meeting at Bangalore next month provides an opportunity 
for him to rise and lay before the house a Statement of his accounts 
and activities.
  • Mr. Aggarwal has found it difficult to answer to Mehta's question. He decided to go MOUN, the best thing to do in such circumstances. It will be of interest for readers to know that while Aggarwal went all over the country requesting people to deposit legal fund into Asthanas personal account, his own unit at Chandigarh passed a resolution that all their collections of legal fund be sent to the FED. only. And they have been doing so.
Regards.
SN Chhabra

Accusations and counter accusations about 'Mentioning'

Splurge in comments

Just after watching Modi's address to NRIs in America I opened the Chronicle but found a sudden splurge of comments on Mentioning. After a long time, that must have kept your readers a little busy following  a small lean time.

In Management there is a section  'Management by objective ' as I remember to have read for  Fellowship paper III.  The objective of Mentioning is now achieved and let us not bother who achieved and how and why etc. 

I appreciate the first reaction of Srinivasa Murhty in conveying the news to choronicle "Good for me, as my purpose is fully served".   It is in this spirit we must take it.  Comments of sit together - Discuss - Mutual trust are subject to  human weakness and so  instead of debating on the issue our leaders should concentrate on strategies for handling the case in SC on the appointed day.

T SAMPATH IYENGAR
BANGALORE

Sunday, September 28, 2014

Unfortunate this public bickering and acrimony

"I see criticism against Asthana by pensioners but not warranted at the present moment," writes LSRK RAO

Dear friends,

I am able to see a lot of criticism against Shri Aasthan by some of the learned pensioners,
It is not warranted at the present moment for our movement before the Supreme Court
of India on 12 11 2014. We have to concentrate particularly on our case and for the
implementation of the Jaipur High Court Order D/ 12 01 2010. Any suggestion to strengthen
the hands of Shri Aasthana is nothing but that of strengthening our own hands.

The enemy Camp and the Dark Forces in one name or other are trying to divide the rank and file
of the pensioners. The most pertinent of them is the L I C Management and the Government.
They are backed with enormous funds out of the surplus generated by us and the Government
is backed up with which we paid in various forms by way of taxes.

So, we have to calculate our strength and the enemy’s strength and run KURUSHETRA.
The Justice is on our side with the supportive judgements of Jaipur, Chandigarh & Delhi
along with the orders of the Supreme court without any stay on the Judgement of any
High Courts.

I am not mentioning that all of you are not aware of it but if we start criticizing each other
with the language bestowed upon us, no useful purpose will be served. The Management
can also conclude that ours is a divided house and the delay to the extent possible by requesting
adjournments after adjournments thereby justice is being delayed. “Delayed justice is nothing
but denied Justice”

Lastly, I pray every one of you not to criticize one another and let us fight for our cause.
When we need water it is not necessary who brought it, our point is our thirst is fulfilled or not.

Victory have many a father but defeat none. Let us ponder over to win our case which is
certain let us enjoy the fruits of our struggle from 1998 handled single hand by Shri AASTHANA.

Let us be proud of our strength but not ponder over on certain points which we can as well ignore.

Let me pray the GOD ALMIGHTY to strengthen our cause and bring unity in our THOUGHTS AND VOICE.

With regards,
L S R KRISHNA RAO. 

No reply to Mehta

Dear Editor,

I simply take pity on Mr.BR Mehta's  recent mail and would not like to drag this
unhealthy debate. 

HOWEVER THE MAIL FROM KOLKATA  GIVES THE NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE 
RESPONSE REQUIRED AT THIS POINT OF TIME. LETS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, PRAY AND HOPE FOR MISSION OF TAKING THE LEGAL FIGHT TO ITS LOGICAL END WHEN PENSIONERS WILL GET FULL JUSTICE. 

With best wishes and regards
H K AGGARWAL

"Discuss strategies with mutual trust" - with whom ?


Mr. Aggarwal seems to be the  Public Relations Manager of AIRIEF. He will quote Vivekananda though it is like ...... ....ing the verses.  I have a simple question, can he quote AIRIEF circular and say since when AIRIEF started supporting Mr. Asthana.  If he doesn't have details, and if he really needs the same, I will search the old posts published in PC and send it for him. Mr. Asthana was 'adopted' by AIRIEF to suit Federation's needs.

2. He writes "TO LEND THEIR FULL SUPPORT IN ANY MANNER - 
MORAL/FINANCIAL/LEGAL ADVICE/
PROPOSALS/PLANS/ SIT TOGETHER 
TO DISCUSS STRATEGIES WITH MUTUAL TRUST 
TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS OF UPGRADATION OF PENSION" 

......SIT TOGETHER !?!?
TO DISCUSS STRATEGIES WITH MUTUAL TRUST ? Can anybody do so in view of their recent performance in the Mentioning issue.

Can the pensioners discuss anything with both of them "with trust".  This is something they have lost and their credibility is zero now.

I don't know if the Editor can publish this. 

Ramesh chandra, Mangalore.

Singing same old bhajan, this time with a difference

Dear Editor,

Just now I have seen a routine ritual being performed by our learned friend Sh. H.K.Aggarwal for last many years i.e. singing his Bhajan in favor of one single Hero. We also admit that contribution of  Sh. Asthana for continuous legal battle is very significant and absolutely there is no denying of this established fact. Yes a little change which is being observed by us in case of Sh. Aggarwal is that earlier while singing his same Bhajan every day, he used to give personal Bank Account Number with an appeal for very liberal donations in this particular bank account only. However, he has stopped the practice quite recently.

But my only request to our learned friend Sh.Aggarwal ji as well as all others who agree with him is that please share your specific reply to a very specific question raised by me in your P.C. yesterday. Let me repeat that question:


I will feel enlightened and obliged.

B.R.Mehta
Panchkula

"Expression of doubt about fairness of intention did not speak well," writes Mazumder


Respected Sri HK Aggarwal,

This refers to your communication through LIC PC on 28th sept. 2014.
You are absolutely right in your expression ".... IT IS NO TIME TO RAISE UNNECESSARY NEGATIVE & FUTILE VOICES WHO DID WHAT AND WHAT NOT.
AS WE ARE AT THE LAST STAGE OF SURMOUNTING OF THE LEGAL FIGHT, IT CALLS FOR ALL PENSIONERS TO REMAIN UNITED AS EVER AND CONTINUE TO LEND 
THEIR FULL SUPPORT IN ANY MANNER- MORAL/FINANCIAL/LEGAL ADVICE/ PROPOSALS/PLANS/ SIT TOGETHER TO DISCUSS STRATEGIES WITH MUTUAL TRUST TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS OF UPGRADATION OF PENSION".

We, in Kolkata, hold Asthanaji in high esteem as he is the chief architect of the castle of our aspirations that we rightfully deserve.


We will have enough of time for accusations once issues 
are finally decided. Pensioners will shower credits to 
the fighters who have been championing their causes 
covering every section of pensioners irrespective of the 
dates of retirements. 

It is the time for maintaining restraint. 

With profound regards,
Subir Kumar Mazumder

Attention gets focused on D-Day, 12th November 2014


The ‘MENTION‘ a privilege bestowed to the litigants who have a genuine grievance has not been utilized by us for so many years and when it suddenly surfaced people swung into action to be the first to petition for it. Had such an action emerged earlier perhaps it could have reduced the number of agonizing adjournments. However better late than never. Wisdom has dawned for good.

  • Now all our attention gets rightly focused on that D-day, 12/13 NOVEMBER when all the pending cases will be heard and disposed with no more adjournments. We all pray and wish for it. Some aged and ailing, I am also one at age 81, include in their prayer that God should keep them going until then. 
While it could be a cake walk for us as far as one writ is concerned, removal of the DA anomaly, as the law is very much on our side and the appellant has no defense to offer and the law cannot be made topsy turvy. Then comes the effective date and the rate of interest for implementation where there could be some argument. I am not sure what the earlier court order said about it and any information on that would help me to calculate the arrears and to keep my better half in good humor!
  • With regard to the other writ, the most important one, the upgradation of pension, although admitted in Jaipur HC and validated subsequently the appellant may come forward with some argument as to the interpretation of the Board resolution more especially whether it is automatic whenever there is a wage revision and whether the same weightage has to be given. We therefore need to be vigilant with all statistics and interpretation at our command, not to hibernate with over confidence, remembering the proverb that even an elephant will slip and get into the pit. To succeed there should be fusion of our wisdom and synergy in action and that is possible only when the stake holders come on a common platform burying all their differences. But who will bell the cat ?

R.K.Viswanathan 

"Funny and untimely", friends not appreciating Asthana's fight supported by AIRIEF

NOW, WHILE CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE LEGAL FIGHT BY ALL OF ANY CLASS OR CADRE OR AFFILIATION ANY WHERE AND EVERY WHERE MUST BE RESPECTED AND APPRECIATED WITHOUT ANY PREJUDICE OR MALICE, 











THIS LEGAL FIGHT IS FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES 
( IN SERVICE OR RETIRED). IT IS NO TIME TO 
RAISE UNNECESSARY NEGATIVE & FUTILE 
VOICES WHO DID WHAT AND WHAT NOT.

AS WE ARE AT THE LAST STAGE OF SURMOUNTING OF THE LEGAL FIGHT, IT CALLS FOR ALL PENSIONERS TO REMAIN UNITED AS EVER AND CONTINUE 


TO LEND THEIR FULL SUPPORT IN ANY MANNER - 
MORAL/FINANCIAL/LEGAL ADVICE/
PROPOSALS/PLANS/ SIT TOGETHER 
TO DISCUSS STRATEGIES WITH MUTUAL TRUST 
TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS OF UPGRADATION OF PENSION 

AND REMOVAL OF DR/DA IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE HAVE WAITED FOR OVER 15 YRS,AND MANY HAVE DIED WAITING FOR DELIVERY OF JUSTICE. THUS, LETS PRAY AND HOPE FOR PEACE, JOY AND PROSPERITY OF ALL IN THE PRESENT FESTIVE SEASON.

WITH BEST WISHES AND REGARDS TO ALL
H K AGGARWAL

Saturday, September 27, 2014

"Asthana would never like any other person or association to lead and get the cases decided", writes PP Dhamija

Dear Mr. Gangadharan


P.P. Dhamija

Playing games

Dear Editor,

I must compliment you for a very healthy debate on current issue of Missing United Action During Mention Move.

I have one simple question from all my learned friends.

Sh. Asthana was publically opposing Mention Move suggested by Sh.Murty a few days before. This is an open secret known to all of us. Why he took the same step which was being openly opposed by him just few days before on 24th in his individual capacity without informing two other stake holders .
Regards,
B.R.Mehta, Panchkula

Retd. Class I Officers Association meeting

at Thiruvananthapuram.

100% neutralization in DR etc.

There was 17 slabs increase in DA to serving employees for the quarter August, 2014 to October 2014. They get 100 % Neutralisation ( Nn ) in DA.

There was 17 slabs increase in Dearness Relief to pensioners for the half year August 2014 to
January 2015. All of us know LIC pensioners retired on or after 1 st Aug. 1997 get 100 % Nn in DR. 100 % DA / DR is on basic pay/ basic pension
Those retired prior to 1 st August 1997 get DR on tapering ( gradually reducing percentage ) basis. Those retired upto " ( A) Rs.1250 and (B ) Rs.2400 " basic pension get 100 % Nn in DR and others get on reducing percentage basis as under :

DR for August 2014 to January 2015

( A ) To those retired prior to 01-08-1992 #

Basic Pension (BP)

(i) Upto. Rs.1250. 832.14 per cent .i.e. 100% Nn in DR upto Rs.1250
(ii) Rs.1251 to Rs.2000. Rs.10401.75 + 683.1 % of BP in excess of Rs.1250
(iii) Rs.2001 to Rs.2130. Rs.15525.00 + 409.86 % of BP in excess of Rs.2000
(iv) Above Rs.2130. Rs.16057.81 + 211.14 % of BP in excess of Rs.2130

( B ) To those retired between 01-08-1992 to 31-07-1997 #


Basic Pension (BP)

(i) Upto Rs.2400. 386.75 per cent i.e. 100 % Nn in DR. upto Rs.2400
(ii) Rs.2401 to Rs.3850. 9282 + 320.45 % of BP in excess of Rs.2400
(iii) Rs.3851 to Rs.4100. 13928.52 + 187.85 % of BP in excess of Rs.3850
(iv) Above Rs.4100. 14398.41 + 99.45 % of BP in excess of Rs.4100


Difference in DR with 100 % and tapering basis ( Aug 2014 to Jan. 2015 ) at the maximum of
pay scales of few categories are indicated below. Anyone can work out the difference in DR
that he / she would get based based on the above.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN DR AND TOTAL PENSION ONLY WITH CENT
PERCENT DR NEUTRALISATION IS VERY LESS COMPARED TO THE TOTAL PENSION A
PENSIONER GETS WITH UPDATION OF PENSION ALONG WITH REVISION OF PAY
SCALES OF WORKING EMPLOYEES. 

FOR DETAILS, PLEASE SEE SHRI C.H. MAHADEVAN'S CHART POSTED IN LICPC IN JULY 2014.
For example: 

( i ) AAO retired before 01-08-1992, with Basic Pension of Rs.2130/- got a total
pension of Rs.18818/- for the month of Aug.2014. It is with DR Tapering basis. With 100 %
Nn in DR he would have drawn Rs.19855/-, a meagre increase of Rs.1667/-. AAO should get
Rs.32379/-with updation of pension ( 100% DR shall be automatic with updation ).
( ii ) AO retired at maximum in Aug. 1992 pay scale, draws a total pension of Rs.19267/- with.
DR on tapering basis. With 100 % DR , the total pension works out to Rs.21831/-.A sum of
Rs.2564/-. AO 's total pension of Aug. 2014 at maximum of the grade is Rs.34184/-.

ALL NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITH GRATITUDE THE EFFORTS OF SHRI K M L
ASTHANAJI FOR GETTING NOTHING LESS THAN UPDATING OF PENSION
RETROSPECTIVELY AND 100% NEUTRALISATION IN DR TO PRE FIRST AUGUST 1997
RETIREES 
Courtesy: CHM & RHS.
SN (a 1992 pensioner) 

Provisions on "Minimum Pension" in LIC Pension Rules,1995‏

The following provisions in LIC Pension Rules amended upto 2000 are significant:

"36. The amount of minimum pension  shall be
(a)----
(b)----
(c) Rs 1100;- per month in respect of employees belonging  to Class I, Class II,Class III, & Class IV who have  retired or died  on or after the first day of August,1997;

(d)In case of any wage revision in future, the amount  of minimum pension payable  to an employee shall be determined  by the Corporation  corresponding to the index in which  the scale is linked.
(The Corporation has determined that the  amount of minimum pension shall be Rs 1480/- per month in respect of employees  belonging to Class I, Class II,Class III, & Class IV who have retired or died  on or after the first day of August,2002)."

Based on this,LIC might have also  revised the minimum pension in respect of employees belonging to Class I, Class II,Class III, & Class IV who have  retired or died  on or after the first day of August,2007after the wage revision notification of 2010, although I am not readily aware of the revised minimum pension amount.

But, reading between the lines, these provisions lay down a principle of revision of  minimum pension  after every  wage revision  corresponding to the index in which the scale is linked.
When this principle is  followed for minimum pension,there is no  reason why upgradation of regular pension and family pension should not be  effected  by LIC  what with, the Jaipur SJB judgment,LIC Board Resolution and the Punjab  & Haryana High  Court judgment refused to be stayed by the Supreme Court.

These provisions  can  come in handy when the cases are argued on 12/11/2014 in the Supreme Court.

With greetings,
C H Mahadevan 

Boasting and blaming


Shri HK Aggarwal has quoted Mr Asthana's statement as follows:

"STILL I SAY INSTEAD OF BOASTING AND BLAMING ONE ANOTHER IT WILL BE BETTER IF WE SIT TOGETHER AND DISCUSS OUR STRATEGY AND PROCEED ON THOSE LINES, OTHERWISE IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE FOR HYD UNIT TO INTERVENE IN THE CASE".

When three cases are tagged together, any interested party can 
intervene legally.Our Hyderabad Association with more than 100 
members has got a huge stake in obtaining a successful outcome in 
the hearing on 12/11/2014 of the three cases tagged together.Now 
that the matter is in the Supreme Court, the ownership for the 
effective conduct of the cases morally vests on the general 
fraternity of pensioners.

Hyderabad Association is determined to do all that it is required 
to do within its resources so that all the three tagged cases come 
to a successful conclusion for the benefit of all pensioners who have 
been waiting for too long in the evening of their lives.
Of course,our Association is prepared to sit together and discuss 
strategy for conducting the case provided the others are willing to 
positively participate.In fact the proposal for such discussions has 
been made time and again by Mr Sreenivasa Murty in the 
recent past.

Kind regards.
C H Mahadevan

Unfortunate developments

Very unfortunate things are happening now a days.The war for credit getting intensified as the days of final round of battle are getting closer.

Leaders and pioneers of the battle are getting apprehensive of the credit being grabbed by the one or other group (the co-fighters) in the field.

We have witnessed this phenomenon in the week before this and it is being continued. The matured leaders, in the final years of their lives, have engaged themselves in the childish quarrel expressing doubts in the matter of fairness of intentions of the co-fighters.

One may not agree to the proposal of extending support to the "Mention" prayers and there may be genuine reasons for that. But Sri MS Murty wanted united approach for "Mention" only. Expression of doubt about the fairness of intention did not speak well of our taste and culture.

It is not time for throwing mud on others. At least, the leaders should refrain from the ugly things and engage themselves in formulating their own lines of action maintaining silence. We will have enough of time for accusations once issues are finally decided. Pensioners are not fools. They will shower credits to the fighters who have been championing their causes covering every section of pensioners irrespective of the dates of retirements.      
--
Subir Kumar Mazumder